Fear
I wished my English was a little better but I give it a try.
People are frequently asking me how to become a (more) consistent trader ?
Well, I could redirect you to the million books which have been written about this subject but apparently they are not helping the mass because 90-95% of all traders fail.
In my onion there is little to gain from all those books, yes I know what I am talking about because I also have read many books in my search years ago. The real key lies within yourself.
What forces are at work when you have prepared yourself to buy the 02/24 low @ 1292.50 ?
Why didn’t you take it ? What did change your mindset ?
The answer is FEAR -Fear of ruin your account.
Most starting traders are in a constant struggle to keep their account alive because they are trading 5-10k accounts or even 3k . Small accounts can’t take frequent losses – your mind can’t take them either because lack of confidence and scare of loosing make you a too cautious trader.
so what you do ?
You take small 3-4 tick profits because it “feels” good. But 1 loser takes a away 3 or 4 good trades and your account took another hit. I can’t tell you what will work for you but I can tell you mine.
I began in 1987 as stock and options trader and I think it is about 10-12 years ago when I was trading futures for the first time. I had a 25k account which I ruined making the same mistakes all traders do. Although I researched and read everything I could lay my hands on it didn’t work. In theory I knew “everything” and yet I failed with another 10k.
I wanted it so badly and not willing to quit, quitting is not in my vocabulary I had to succeed in my endeavor as a Trader. I decided to give it one more try with a 15k account what would make my total loss 50k
I didn’t care about that money anymore, it wasn’t mine anymore so to speak.
In other words I was not emotional attached to that money anymore and I now believe that is why I made it in this business. I did tons of homework, pre-defined my levels and executed according to plan. The hell with it – if I lose it ok I lose it and I’ll know.
Not that my demons were gone, absolutely not but I had no other choice than to confront those beasts.
I can see some similarities with the poker game – you enter at the flop the boys try to freak you out on the Turn with their 2-tick suckerstop and if market moves up they try to stab you again on the river with a weak pullback to the lows.
People are asking me how long will it take to become consistent ?
I think if you have the money, the experience and the right mindset it can be done in about 6-9 months.
Before trading real money you need to rehearse your skills over and over on SIM so that you can rely on your experience and the setups “that work for you” .
During those SIM sessions you need to visualize trading for real and not that it doesn’t matter because its SIM.
You should mentally feel the fear of stopping out and rehearse it again and again so when changing to real you have been in that state already, you know how it feels.
Trade what you see instead of what you think. Trade according to your plan knowing where/when you are wrong and hide the P&L on your DOM.
Thanks Rob, I appreciate the time you take to go over your Trading experience. I don’t know your story but I can see myself in your words, except that I am not profitable yet and I am still far behind your expertise and confidence. Getting there though I can fell. I will not quite as you didn’t and I will get there because I love so much this business.
Thanks for sharing
Have a great resting week end
Amitiés
Laurent
I completely agree that fear is there because most trade with emotional capital. Attachment to money is natural to most because it is our livelihood. You can argue this but I think trading for income while you are learning to trade futures is a BAD idea.
Also I think to SIM can help you rehearse your setups but no way does it prepare you for the emotional battle that comes with putting your own capital on the line. I think people should go into this business with capital that they are willing to lose and it won’t financially impact them while also deattaching yourself from money.
I agree Don people should not trade real money before they have gone through all stages of training and build confidence in their strategies on SIM. Visualisation of the emotional battle can be done but only by a few.
Hi Rob,
I enjoyed reading your honest account of the early days. As coincidence has it, my first blown account was also $25K.
I agreed with you …spend a lot of time mastering your edge on sim until you have learned to trust it. And only after that, move on to a live account to face the next set of challenges.
Rob
hi Rob
thanks for your sharing your experience and your honest.
i am cope with it now
I agree Rob I have been trading SIM on and off for over 3.5 years to get the right mindset. I blew 13k in one day and wiped out 6 weeks of profits in one day on another time. One has to figure out where your impulse activation is, what triggers it, and learn to place it where it should be for trade entries and exits WHEN the mkt calls for it. Not when IT wants to react to something that isn’t a correct signal for a trade. If I find myself pulling the trigger and stubbornly holding to a particular train of thought that is contrary to the mkt, I pay for it. That’s why I think it’s so important to develope specific strategies that are flexible. And to take the win when correct and mkt hits your target or the mkt shows that it may reverse. And take the loss when wrong. Acting when the setup is correct needs to be initiated from a predetermined set of rules and strategies which should be evolving strategies( add-on’s) when winning.
Hi Rob – Hope you are doing well – Miss you are your voice. Take care
Hi Rob, Got your email few weeks back. Really wish you the best in health. Hope you get better… I like to stop by on your Fear page. Gives me that prespective again. Take care -chetan